A simple yet powerful way to see through the noisy mind 

In this episode, Piers speaks with fellow coach and author Suzie Yeulett about her new book The Point of Now, and the simple but profound direction it points towards: the present moment, the nature of thought, and the resilience that is already available beneath the noise of the mind.

The conversation explores how much of our suffering comes from living in the mind’s projections of past and future, and how presence is not something we need to find, force or practise, but something that is already here. Suzie shares how her own experience of being with her mother at the end of life revealed a natural resilience that she had not created through tools, techniques or self-improvement.

Piers and Suzie also explore the deeper Quality of Mind theme of mistaken identity: what is the “self” actually made of, and what changes when identity is seen as thought, sensation and perception rather than something solid? The episode moves from practical examples of anxiety and overthinking into a deeper inquiry into presence, feeling, identity and the possibility of living with less striving and more natural clarity.

• Presence is already here - it is not something we need to manufacture or force
• Much of our pressure comes from thought travelling into past and future
• Identity is not fixed or solid; it appears through thought, sensation and perception
• The “self” may not be something to improve, but something to see through
• Feeling is not a problem to fix - we are designed to feel
• This is not about adding another technique, reframe or grounding tool
• Simple noticing can reveal how the mind works and naturally lighten the load
• Life becomes less serious when the role of the mind is seen more clearly

03:33 How change can happen through recognition rather than tools or techniques

05:08 Suzie explains “the point of now” and her inverted triangle framework

06:50 Presence is already here - we are not looking for something missing

08:42 The everyday operating system of busy-mindedness and control

10:08 Anxiety, overthinking and asking: “where is the problem right now?”

12:18  The “fear of fear” and how anticipation creates suffering

13:51 Realisation versus using presence as another technique

14:48 What is identity, and why “shifting identity” may miss the deeper point

16:05 Direct experience inquiry and seeing the self as psychological

18:49 The case of mistaken identity and why it keeps us in the operating mind

20:10 Taking things personally and how that contracts perspective

21:24 Neutral noticing, expanded aperture and seeing that it is not really happening to “me”

23:17 The part of us that is undamaged by experience

24:35 Why we are designed to feel, rather than distract ourselves from feeling

27:05 When the conceptual mind has nowhere to go

28:07 What babies show us about feeling without self-identification

29:38 Seeing the mind move from invisible, to subtle, to obvious

32:24 How trying to be present can reinforce the separate self

36:54 How far simple noticing can take us

38:11 Loosening the conviction of separate identity

41:10 The relief of seeing there may not be a problem to fix

41:51 Why the words are not the point - the recognition underneath is

43:47 Natural change versus more tools, protocols and strategies

50:15 Life becomes less serious when we take the mind less seriously

Curious? Want to know more?

• Explore Suzie's book "The Point of Now"    . Highly recommended. You can get some free chapters on the link. and Buy it here now  https://amzn.eu/d/5fyskTl
• Suzie's LinkedIn profile is here 

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What if procrastination isn’t a discipline problem at all — but a misunderstanding about how the mind works?

Are you ready to explore the real cause of procrastination?

In this episode, Piers is interviewed by Deborah Hurwitz, host of the Productivity for Perfectionists Summit. The conversation explores why so many intelligent, driven people struggle with procrastination, overthinking, and pressure — and why most solutions fail to address the real leverage point. Deborah asked some excellent questions to explore the Quality of Mind before psychology understanding. 

Rather than offering tools to manage thoughts, Piers points to something more fundamental: the understanding that our experience of life arises before psychology.

Through practical examples, metaphors, and direct inquiry, the conversation explores how perfectionism, procrastination, and the “busy brain” are not problems to fix, but signals pointing to a deeper misunderstanding about the nature of the human experience.

When this misunderstanding begins to dissolve, clarity, creativity, and ease naturally return — not through effort, but through insight.

• Why trying to fix your thinking with more thinking is like trying to get dry in the shower without turning the water off

• The difference between application and implication when it comes to psychological insight

• Why perfectionists often feel stuck between control and procrastination

• How flow states reveal the absence of the “separate doer”

• The idea that our experience of life consists of thought, sensation, and perception

• Why psychological experiences can be real but never true

• How emotions and sensations act as indicators of how much we’re believing our thinking

• Why resisting feelings often intensifies them — and how simply allowing sensation dissolves the struggle

• What it means to explore the space before psychology, where clarity and possibility naturally arise

• Why the future we imagine through thinking is always finite, while the space before thought is infinite

00:00 – Trying to fix thinking with thinking
02:15 – Why the problem isn’t the problem
04:02 – The shower metaphor and the real leverage point
05:45 – Flow state and the absence of the separate self
09:30 – Procrastination and self-identification
10:15 – There is choosing, but no chooser
14:04 – Thought, sensation, and perception
18:18 – Real, but never true
22:00 – Sensation indicators and aperture
27:30 – Why we avoid feeling
28:00 – Leaning into sensation
31:41 – What lies upstream of the busy brain
34:31 – Infinite possibility before thought
37:30 – It happens by subtraction
38:40 – The Netflix screen metaphor
41:39 – The case of mistaken identity
44:12 – From invisible, to subtle, to obvious

Curious? Want to know more?

Explore Deborah Hurwitz’s Productivity for Perfectionists Summit, where this conversation originally took place. The summit brings together leading thinkers exploring fresh approaches to productivity, performance, and the pressures many high achievers place on themselves. Highly recommended. 

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Discover how much your understanding of the mind may already be shaping your performance, peace, and potential.

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In this episode of the Quality of Mind: Transforming Business podcast, Piers is joined once again by regular guest and fellow Quality of Mind collaborator Katrijn Van Oudheudsen to explore her newly republished book, Seeing No Self.

At a time when modern culture increasingly promotes self-optimisation, productivity hacks, and constant self-improvement, this conversation questions a deeper assumption behind it all: the idea that we are a separate psychological self who must constantly be fixed, improved, and managed.

Through the lens of Direct Inquiry, Katrijn explains why this belief sits at the root of much unnecessary stress, pressure, and psychological effort — and how investigating our experience directly can reveal something very different.

Rather than offering another philosophy, mindset technique, or spiritual belief system, Seeing No Self invites readers to explore a practical and experiential approach to discovering what we actually are before the psychological identity we spend so much energy maintaining.

The conversation explores why this understanding is becoming increasingly relevant in a culture driven by identity, performance pressure, and personal responsibility — and why direct inquiry offers a simple yet powerful way to look beyond it.

• The modern self-improvement culture can unintentionally reinforce psychological pressure
• The belief in a separate self creates unnecessary stress and identity management
• Direct Inquiry offers a practical way to investigate experience rather than adopt beliefs
• Seeing through the illusion of the self reveals natural peace, intelligence, and potential
• This understanding is relevant not only for wellbeing but also for leadership and performance

00:00 The Pressure of Modern Self-Improvement
03:30 What “Seeing No Self” Actually Means
04:40 The Hidden Resource Behind the Psychological Self
07:00 Why This Understanding Is Relevant for Everyone
10:50 The Cultural Pressure to Improve Ourselves
15:40 What Direct Inquiry Really Is
27:10 Why the Illusion of Self Is More Fragile Than It Appears
38:00 Direct Inquiry vs Traditional Spiritual Approaches
42:00 Why Most People Avoid Looking Directly
44:40 Why Inquiry Is Simpler Than We Think
46:50 Who This Book Is (and Isn’t) For

Buy, read and review the book now. 

You can find out more about Katrijn Van Oudheusden and her work on Daily Non-Duality Substack.

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Most leaders aren’t burnt out.

They’re functioning.

Delivering.
Growing.
Carrying.

But underneath that capability, there can be a constant mental load — an invisible weight of control, responsibility, and inner management that never quite switches off.

In this episode of Quality of Mind: Transforming Business, Piers is joined by Nicola Merritt, Founder and CEO of a 60-person M&A advisory firm.

On paper, things were working.

But internally, leadership felt heavier than it needed to.

This conversation isn’t about tactics, resilience strategies, or productivity systems.

It’s about what changed when Nicola began to see the source of her mental load differently — not at the level of behaviour, but at the level of understanding.

• Why high-performing leaders often create unnecessary psychological pressure

• The difference between confidence and deeper self-assurance

• How control subtly becomes exhausting

• What happens when the need to constantly manage thinking begins to drop

• Why clarity doesn’t need to be manufactured

• The shift from striving to something more sustainable

• How leadership matures when mental noise settles

Nicola didn’t lose ambition.

She didn’t reduce standards.

She didn’t step back from responsibility.

What shifted was her relationship with pressure amd clarity.

The constant mental overdrive softened.

She moved to a four-day week.

She switched off her phone on holiday.

She describes finding peace not only in stillness — but in the middle of business noise.

Not because circumstances changed.

Because understanding did.

This episode will resonate if you:

• Lead a growing organisation

• Feel the invisible weight of responsibility

• Are successful but quietly tired of the mental grind

• Have tried systems, structures, and optimisation — but sense something deeper is missing

Quality of Mind doesn’t offer tools to manage your psychology.

It points to what sits before it. What we describe as Before Psychology 

And when that is seen clearly, leadership often becomes lighter — without becoming weaker.

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Most personal development delivers a breakthrough high.

A lift.
A sense of clarity.
A feeling that something important has shifted.

And then… it fades.

In this episode Piers is joined by Cassie, who is a leader at Shell in Incident Mmanagement for a testimonial conversation recorded over two years after she attended the Quality of Mind Three-Day Open Programme.

This is not a reflection on what felt good at the time.

It’s an honest exploration of what lasted.

Cassie shares how her understanding of Quality of Mind didn’t wear off, didn’t require maintaining, and didn’t depend on tools, techniques, or habits to keep it alive. In fact, she describes how it has continued to deepen naturally, long after the programme ended.

This episode goes beyond the usual “breakthrough moment” and looks at what happens when when meta-realisation have no half-life.

• Why many mindset, performance, and wellbeing approaches fade over time

• What’s different when change comes from understanding rather than effort

• How clarity, lightness, and spaciousness emerge without self-management

• Why Quality of Mind isn’t about fixing yourself or becoming better

• How relationships change when you see others as shaped by experience, not character

• What it’s like to live and work without constant inner commentary

• Why this understanding continues to work because there’s nothing to maintain

Cassie didn’t come to the programme because something was broken.
She came out of curiosity.

What followed wasn’t a technique to apply or a state to chase, but a fundamental shift in how she understands thinking, emotion, pressure, and experience itself.

Two years on, she describes a Quality of Mind that hasn’t diminished with time, hasn’t required reinforcement, and hasn’t relied on discipline or practice to survive.

As she puts it simply in the conversation:

“It hasn’t worn off. It doesn’t have a half-life.”

• Leaders and professionals who’ve tried mindset or performance tools before

• People who sense there’s nothing wrong with them, but still feel unnecessary strain

• Those tired of managing their mind instead of understanding it

• Anyone curious about change that lasts without effort

This is not a promise of constant positivity or a life without challenge.

It’s a real-world account of what happens when the misunderstanding that creates mental noise quietly falls away.

If this conversation resonates, you’re invited to explore further 

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Most people assume that if life isn’t working, they need to try harder, think better, or fix something about themselves.

But what if the opposite is true?

In this episode of the Quality of Mind podcast, Piers Thurston is joined by entrepreneur and author James Eder, whose has been shaped by a sequence of opportunities, connections, and breakthroughs that seem to arrive when he’s not forcing them. As you listen just notice when something feels lighter — and when it feels effortful.  That contrast is the point. In James new book the Collision Code he recounters his stories of finding himself in moments of clarity, flow, and serendipity — often without trying to make them happen.

Together, Piers and James explore:

• Why intuition feels obvious after the fact but hard to trust in the moment

• How effort and over-thinking quietly block clarity and momentum

• The difference between being committed to life and being attached to outcomes

• Why some experiences feel overwhelming at the time, yet trivial in hindsight

• How recognition changes experience more than understanding ever could

This is not a “how-to” episode.
It’s an invitation to notice something you may already recognise in your own life — the moments when things worked best before you stepped in to manage them.

If you’re curious about performance, leadership, wellbeing, or decision-making — and you’re tired of hacks and techniques — this conversation offers a different place to look.

Rather than analysing this intellectually, the conversation invites listeners to notice the difference between effort and ease in their own experience — and what changes when the mind stops interfering.

It’s an exploration of something many people already sense — but rarely trust.

About the guest:
James Eder is an entrepreneur and the author of The Collision Code, a book exploring serendipity, connection, and the surprising role other people play in shaping our lives. Proceeds from the book support charitable causes.

• Find Out More About James Here on Linkedin  or his website here

• And his latest for Charity Book The Collision Code

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Trying to manage the mind is like trying to get dry in the shower without turning the water off.

What if the biggest shifts in life don’t come from trying to improve your mindset, but from understanding something far more fundamental about how the mind actually works?

This episode it's taken from a recording where Piers  was on the Deadlines and Details podcast which is hosted by Matt Barrington Packer, who came on the Quality of Mind Open Programme in March 2025 

Matt shares how Quality of Mind changed his life, after years of trying to stay calm, stay focused, or stay in control, he finally saw something upstream of all of that: a deeper layer of mind that changes everything from the inside out. No techniques, no hacks, no effort — just a shift in understanding that made the world look and feel different.

Together, they explore what sits behind this kind of real-world change, how it becomes practical without being prescriptive, and why so many people sense this truth long before they have language for it.

• The “aperture of mind” and why the same situation can feel totally different from one moment to the next

• Flow, ease and clarity as natural by-products of a less self-identified mind

• Why the mind’s “unreliable narrator” creates so much unnecessary pressure

• The role of sensation, story and selfing in shaping our experience

• Why mindset tools and techniques only ever offer partial relief

• How insight — not effort — leads to real and sustainable transformation

• What this understanding offers leaders, teams and anyone wanting a more easeful way of being

This is not a story about willpower or mental strategies.
It’s a simple, grounded exploration of what changes in everyday life when someone begins to understand the mind before psychology — and why that understanding is so relevant for today’s world of constant change, ambiguity, and cognitive load. Matt actually called this episode on his show. “Is This It?” Mid-Life, Burnout & The Truth About How Your Mind Really Works

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“You Can’t Train Flow — You Can Only Stop Interrupting It”

In this special episode, the tables turn — Piers becomes the guest.
Joined by friend and regular contributor Craig Willman, he explores what happens when the principles of Quality of Mind are taken out of the conversation room and onto the road — quite literally.

After saying yes to a 750km cycling challenge from Milan to Rome, Piers explores with his years of understanding “Before Psychology,” how the mind can still weave its illusions — of fear, striving, and self-doubt. What unfolds is a personal, honest and often funny exploration of how the illusion of self, the myth of control, and the nature of flow play out in real life.

If this conversation sparked something in you — whether you’re a leader, a creator, or simply someone curious about what’s before the mind — explore more at qualityofmind.biz.

And if you’d like to support the Ride25 fundraising for 1MoreChild, visit the link 

• A personal story of saying “yes” to a challenge for aliveness, not ego.

• How the Quality of Mind realization of Real but Never True applies when your legs burn or a descent feels scary.

• Why experts “see” fewer hazards—and how that translates to leadership.

• What flow actually feels like on the bike and a simple, everyday way to notice what doesn’t come and go—without a bike or Italy

You’ll get:

• A relatable breakdown of the mental side of riding: climbs, descents, headwinds, skills.

• How perception (your “aperture”) can make a hill look steeper—or simpler—without changing your fitness.

• A practical pointer to find more calm and flow on rides and in life, with no hacks or rituals.

You’ll hear:

• Lived examples of Before Psychology in a “physical” domain.

• Subtle ego re-appearances (“managing the cyclist” vs training the body).

• Oneness & flow as non-identification, not state chasing.

• How the ego subtly reappears as the voice of “trying your hardest.”

• What “real but never true” means when your legs are burning on a climb.

• Why flow can’t be trained — only revealed by stopping interference.

• How the same insight that transforms leadership also transforms cycling.

• And why aliveness doesn’t come from comfort or discomfort — but from seeing what’s truly before both.

It’s a personal glimpse behind the mic — a lived demonstration of what “Before Psychology” looks like when rubber meets the road.

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🧭 Episode Summary

In this open and thought-provoking episode, Piers welcomes Adam Shuty to discuss his diverse journey from martial arts, to standup comedy, and his current enterprise, Everest Longevity. Having explored decades of personal development, performance psychology, and transformation work, Adam wanted to know: What exactly is this “Before Psychology” thing? His immediate resonance with the conversation signalled there was more to see. 
What unfolds is a live exploration and inquiry looking fresh to see what sits beyond all methods and mindsets.

The Discussion Covers

• The case of mistaken identity — why believing we are a separate “me” is the root illusion behind all striving.
• The sky and the weather — a simple metaphor for understanding awareness and thought.
• ''Real but never true'' — how experience can feel vividly real yet not be fundamentally true or causal.
• From trying to flow — why the intelligence of life does better work when we stop trying to manage our minds.
• Direct experience inquiry — how to look freshly, without concepts, and glimpse what never comes or goes.
• Practical implications — what happens to leadership, relationships, and even financial legacy when we see who we truly are.

0:00 Introduction to Quality of Mind
01:05 Adam's Journey, Philosophy and Career
07:00 Exploring the Concept of Quality of Mind
07:27 The Secret Sauce to Unlocking Potential
16:31 The Case of Mistaken Identity
18:37 The Nature of Human Experience
22:12 The Illusion of Separate Self
36:29 Understanding Time Perception
37:10 The Evolution of Life and Perception
38:27 The Case of Mistaken Identity
40:40 The Concept of the True Self
43:06 Realizing the True Self
44:57 Practical Applications and Realizations
48:52 The Path to Realization
51:01 Direct Experience and Awareness
66:06 Final Thoughts and Deciding We a Need Part 2!

✉️ Connect & Learn More 

• Adam's website and profile and 

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🧭 Episode Summary

In this practical-meets-profound conversation, Piers welcomes back Craig to explore how people can genuinely love the work part of work—not by adding hacks and perks, but by subtracting what obscures our natural flow.

Craig shares his new venture, Love Your Work, and a simple doorway into effortless productivity: Rather than pushing or “trying harder,” we explore how work becomes energising when the self isn’t busy resisting or controlling. Expect a grounded entry point that naturally points upstream to the deeper Before Psychology understanding—so the benefits don’t stop at a better half-hour block, they recalibrate how you work and live.

We cover:

• Subtraction over addition: Why real engagement comes from removing friction, not adding pool tables, perks, or more process.

• The OFF Method: A practical way to turn everyday tasks and meetings into “objective meditation”—revealing the system’s built-in intelligence.

• From trying to allowing: How “trying” creates dissatisfaction and worse results, while allowing reveals presence, ease, and better outcomes.

• Aperture & flow at work: Why the same spreadsheet can feel draining one day and enlivening the next—clue: it’s not the spreadsheet.

• Art, sport & emergence: Brilliance arrives when the personal self steps aside 

• From practice to default: Start with a doorway like OFF; let it point you to upstream seeing so flow becomes the baseline, not a borrowed state.

🔎 For listeners who:

• Sense there’s more to work than grinding—and want results with ease, not instead of ease.

• Lead teams and are tired of context-switching, Slack pings, and “performative productivity.”

• Want a non-woo, practical entry to deeper insight that actually improves delivery, wellbeing, and culture.

• Are curious about non-duality/Before Psychology but prefer a work-first, lived experience

🧩 Mentioned in the episode

• Love Your Work — Craig’s new venture (how to make work itself your source of wellbeing).

• The OFF Method (Objective • Focus • Flow) — simple instructions, profound implications.

• Aperture / Self-identification / Is-ness — the upstream principles behind effortless performance.

• Cold-shower / Urge-surfing analogy — leaning into sensation vs. conceptualising it.

• The Meta Realisation: The source of all lack of flow = Self identification 

✉️ Connect & Learn More from Craig

• Craig's Love your Work Website
• The highly recommended Meaningless Problems podcast that Craig has created. Remember to check out the Forced Episode
• Craig's Linkedin Profile

💻 Explore more Quality of Mind resources:

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• Video: Why Do We Describe Quality of Mind as Before Psychology? — clear 2-min intro

• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here

• Follow Piers on LinkedIn for regular posts and reflections

• Subscribe to our YouTube channel for quick, powerful insight videos

• For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here

• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more

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Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

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Part of our 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep 14:  ''A Business Owner Reflects on the Real Impact of Quality of Mind (5min)

What if the life you thought was already great… could feel even more alive, connected, and easeful?

In this short testimonial episode, Chris, a successful business owner, shares how the Quality of Mind programme revealed a whole new way of being. Not by adding tools or strategies, but by subtracting the misunderstandings that cloud our experience, and how he wishes he'd done it sooner in life

Listen in as he reflects on:

• The surprising difference he felt
• Why even “perfect” lives can feel more free
• Amplified his sense of peace and connection
• Made time alone something to savour
• Helped him show up in life and work with more presence and joy

A beautifully grounded and human account of what becomes possible when we see Before Psychology.

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Leading from Your Highest Frequency: The Shift That Changes Everything - What if the secret to transformation wasn’t more effort, but less?

In this conversation, Piers is joined by Carolina—a self-described “quantum-preneur” and lifelong system challenger—to explore what lies beyond the conventional narrative of psychological effort, productivity, and leadership. T

Drawing on examples from nature, frequency science, and lived experience, they examine what it means to lead from the inside-out, why presence is more powerful than personality, and how leadership shifts when we stop managing our minds and start tuning into a deeper field of intelligence.

Listen in to explore and unravel the deeper intelligence of frequency, presence, and felt experience.

This episode covers:

The Myth of Mental Effort: Why even brilliant, well-intentioned leaders feel trapped in a system of grind — and what opens up when we stop playing that game.

From Thinking to Feeling to Sensing: How most of what we call “feeling” is actually thought — and how to recalibrate to the real, felt experience beneath it.

Frequency & Flow: You’re not “low energy,” you’re just misaligned. The power of vibrational awareness and coherence in leadership.

Language Gets in the Way: When describing falls short, sensing takes over. Why flow, frequency, and state can’t be fully explained — but they can be known.

Nature as a Teacher: What horses, babies, and “cutting the tension in the room” show us about energetic leadership.

Leadership as State, Not Strategy: Your presence is doing the work. How your inner aperture influences everything around you.

We Are Not Broken — Just Desensitised: You don’t need fixing, you just need remembering. Reconnection, not self-improvement, is the path.

From Me to We: Why legacy isn't about doing more — it’s about being differently. The shift from personal success to embodied impact.

🔎 For Listeners Who:

• Feel the weight of responsibility, but suspect there’s another way

• Want to access their best-day leadership more consistently

• Sense the limitations of conventional mindset tools

• Are curious about how presence and frequency influence business, relationships, and wellbeing

• Are ready to go beyond the conceptual and into direct experience

This episode is a invitation to stop efforting and start sensing. If you’re curious about what it means to live, lead, and create from an entirely different paradigm... this one’s for you.

🧭 Mentioned in the Episode:

• Energy Fields & The Heart’s Intelligence: Why the heart’s magnetism matters more than the brain’s charge

• Expanded vs Contracted Aperture: A Quality of Mind lens for understanding state and clarity

• Cold Showers, Grounding & Nature: Simple ways to sense the raw intelligence of presence

• Human Doings vs Human Beings: Why we’ve forgotten how to feel — and how to get it back

• The Field is Always Working: But are we available to receive?

• Feeling as Feedback: Using sensation as a gentle, impersonal indicator of aperture

✉️ Connect and Learn More:

You can connect with Carolina via Linkedin  and her website here

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In this expansive and exploratory conversation, Piers joins Dr Amy Johnson on the Changeable Podcast show for a deep dive into the lived reality of the Quality of Mind and Before Psychology understanding. Showing how through every day life relationships, desires, discomforts, and even minor eye-roll moments—functions as a mirror showing us where self identity is still subtly hiding.

The episode explores how our desires and reactions are not random or personal but invitations to notice where we are still believing in a separate self. 

• Life is a Mirror: Everything—especially your desires, discomforts, and relationships—acts as a mirror showing where identity is still subtly hiding.

• Desire is Not the Problem: Desire becomes a compass. Clean wants flow naturally; unclean ones reveal where the self is trying to prop itself up.

• Feeling vs Thinking: Much of what we call “feeling” is actually conceptualisation. Real transformation begins when we stop analysing and start sensing.

• Real but Never True: All experience is real but not objectively true. When seen from this lens, experience becomes less personal and more revealing.

• Subtlety is the New Frontier: As our aperture widens, we become more attuned to the micro-resistances and subtle patterns where identity still hides.

• There Is No Separate Self: The shift isn’t in fixing yourself—it’s in seeing that what you think you are never existed in the way it seemed.

• Practical Non-Duality: These insights aren’t just philosophical—they profoundly shift parenting, working, relating, and even cooking dinner.

• The System Learns Naturally: You don’t have to figure this out. When you're no longer distracted, the system shows you exactly what you need to see.

• Sense there's more to life but are tired of trying to fix themselves to find it
• Feel stuck in loops of self-improvement or subtle identity work
• Want to bring more freedom, insight and presence to work, leadership, parenting, or any aspect of daily life
• Are curious about non-duality and want to explore it in grounded, relatable ways
• Feel stuck in loops of self-improvement or subtle identity work
• Want to bring more freedom, insight and presence to parenting, work or daily life
• Are noticing the limits of conceptual thinking and are ready to live more from the raw aliveness of the present

• Silent Retreats: As a direct pointer to the parts of ourselves we habitually distract from

• The Mirror Metaphor: A recurring theme—how life reflects our inner landscape back to us

• “Clean” vs “Unclean” Desires: A practical tool for checking where we’re coming from

• Parenting Examples: Real-life stories about identity, validation, and subtle control

• Direct Inquiry: Practices like “Which ‘I’ is asking?” and “Can I find the one who is upset?”

• The ‘Isness’ of Experience: A term used to describe the raw, pre-conceptual nature of life

• The System’s Learning Extravaganza: Piers’ phrase for how insight unfolds naturally

• Telepathy Tapes Podcast: Referenced as an example of unfiltered sensing without self-identification

• Cold Showers as Practice: A visceral pointer to raw sensation vs conceptualised feeling

• You can find out more about Amy and her work here
• Amy's most recent Book 'Just a Thought' (aka That's Just What Minds Do :) purchase and get a free chapter here 
• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
• TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post

What if everything we’ve been taught about resilience and healing is upside down?

Piers chats with leadership coach and former lawyer Bill Giruzzi about the hidden architecture behind healing, resilience, and our capacity for wellbeing. They explore how society’s obsession with avoiding discomfort is not only unhelpful — it’s quietly costing us our aliveness, potential, and freedom.

Through Bill’s deeply personal story of debilitating anxiety and the profound insights that emerged on the other side, we unpack:

• Why “getting rid of symptoms” isn’t the same as true wellbeing

• How trying to manage or avoid uncomfortable feelings can keep us stuck

• The real shift that dissolves suffering at its source (and why it’s not what you think)

• Why the system is already built to heal — if we stop interfering

• The modern misunderstanding of resilience in business and leadership

• How our resistance to discomfort is often driven by a case of mistaken identity

This episode challenges the conventional view of performance, healing, and leadership — and invites a deeper, more liberating understanding of the mind that’s surprisingly simple, yet profoundly transformative.

• The problem isn’t the feeling — it’s the resistance to it.

• There’s nothing wrong with you. You’re not broken. You’re just believing something untrue.

• True resilience comes not from building a thicker skin, but from seeing there’s nothing you need protection from.

• Your wellbeing isn’t something you earn — it’s something you uncover.

• Are leaders, entrepreneurs, or coaches feeling worn down by chronic coping

• Sense there must be more to life and leadership than managing stress and ticking boxes

• Want to understand how to access a deeper, more sustainable version of wellbeing and freedom

• Are open to looking in a direction that challenges everything they thought they knew about the mind

• The myth of "fixing" yourself

• Flow state, self-identification, and the illusion of control

• Cold showers, toddlers, and the surprising route to emotional freedom

📩 Email Bill
📘 Bill's Book A Life Worth Living (Bill notes this reflects an earlier stage of his understanding)

• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
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• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep 13:  'What Could Make a Difference to Everything in the World?'

A 3 min snippet from the episode ''Unlocking Human Evolution: The Potential AI Revolution in Coaching with Katrijn Van Oudheudsen 

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

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• AI could be better than humans at coaching and awakening self-realisation
• The illusion of the separate self is the root of suffering—AI helps break it down
• AI coaching will become self-adjusting, engaging, and widely accessible
• The transformation AI enables is not just personal—it has global implications

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Katrijn here  and on her website here 
• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
• TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post

Part of our 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep 12:  Going Beyond Sales Goals: Unconditional Freedom

A 3 min snippet from the episode ''From Selling to Serving:  The Power of Going Beyond Self'' with Sales Coach Nick Hall

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

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• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

Unlocking Sales Success: The Power of Going Before the Self

Welcome to the Quality of Mind Transforming Business Podcast Series! In this episode, we have a thought-provoking conversation with Nick, a former enterprise tech salesperson turned coach. Over the past 12-18 months, Nick has flourished in coaching, helping salespeople and leaders balance high performance with peace of mind.

We delve into the art of sales and business development, discussing how understanding the nature of the mind and self can profoundly impact sales skills. We also discover Nick's transformative journey from facing anxiety and panic attacks in a high-pressure sales environment to finding true fulfilment.

Tune in to explore topics like committed and intentional sales versus attached and invested approaches, and the invaluable distinction between serving and selling.

Learn how you can become a better salesperson by recognising the freedom to experience any sensation without self-attachment.

Discover how to handle any sensation or feeling and realize their true identity as awareness itself, rather than a separate self, leading to greater freedom and effectiveness in their professional and personal lives.

• Nick’s Journey: From high-pressure enterprise tech sales to transformative coaching

• The Shift from External to Internal Success: What happens when success on the outside doesn’t align with inner wellbeing?

• Selling vs. Serving: How a shift in perspective changes the sales experience for both the seller and the client

• Freedom in Sales: The distinction between being committed and intentional versus attached and invested

• The Fear of Fear: Why the real issue isn’t external circumstances but our perception of them

• High Performance & Flow States: Understanding what gets in the way of performing at your best

• Navigating Targets & Pressure: How sales professionals can stay in service mode even within high-pressure environments

• The Power of Inquiry: The role of direct experience in discovering what is truly real

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Nick here  and on his website here 
• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
• TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the Before Psychology nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post

Part of our 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep 12:  ''Letting Go of Resistance...Is Not Compromising"

A 2 min snippet from the episode ''The Business Advantage: The Secret Source to Flow & Ease with Emily Hawkins. Full Episode here 

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
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• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Emily here her work on her website here 
• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
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• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep 11:  'The Unreliable Mind: Why You Can't Trust Your Thoughts''

A 3 min snippet from the episode ''The Potential Hiding in the Simplicity of Before Psychology. Exploring 'Extra-Ordinary' & Effortlessness'' with Dr Amy Johnson. Full Episode here 

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? Listen here

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

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• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

In this exploration provoking episode, Piers Thurston and Dr. Amy Johnson explore the transformative concept of 'Before Psychology.' They discuss how recognising the base-level awareness that precedes thought and perception and feeling can unlock profound shifts in peace, performance, and human potential.

The conversation delves into the challenges of perceiving the ordinary, innate wisdom often overlooked. It emphasises detaching from any pre-learnt to experience a more direct and untainted inquiry into reality. The episode offers insights into achieving psychological freedom and fulfilment by realising an ever-present ordinariness rather than acquiring new techniques.  Debunking the myth of cause and effect

Amy is the author of 'The Little Book of Big Change', she is a regularly featured expert on The Steve Harvey Show, Oprah.com, as well as Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and Self magazine.

This is a relatively long episode, but it is all so very valuable - kick back and enjoy the exploration!  Please let us know what resonates

01:37 Exploring Coaching and Psychology

03:14 The Power of Subtle Understanding

04:25 Challenges in Communicating Abstract Concepts

05:31 The Role of Words and Understanding

07:46 Direct Inquiry and Self-Realization

13:25 The Essence of Effortlessness and Ordinariness

23:02 Recognizing Thought and Self-Identification

33:37 The Journey to Subtractive Understanding

40:34 The Illusion of Free Will

42:36 Questioning Cause and Effect

47:06 The Unreliable Mind

58:33 Practical Tips for Awareness

01:10:The Joy of Exploration

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Amy and her work here Amy's most recent Book 'Just a Thought' (aka That's Just What Minds Do :) purchase and get a free chapter here 
• A previous episode with Amy where we discuss why we both evoled to  up pointing our clients in this direction is here
• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
• TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and post

The Self and Overthinking:

In this episode of the Quality of Mind Transforming Business podcast, host Piers chats with Andrew Sewell, a leadership and personal coach, and author of 'The Overthinker’s Guide to Life.'

Andrew shares his journey from scriptwriting and advertising to coaching. The conversation delves into the pervasive issue of overthinking, its roots in the modern emphasis on the self, and how our historical and societal constructs have exaggerated our sense of individual separateness.

They explore transformative insights into recognizing the fundamental oneness of existence, drawing from concepts in various spiritual traditions.

Through direct inquiry into the nature of thought, Andrew and Piers offer listeners practical wisdom on how to unhook from habitual thinking and experience a more relaxed and connected way of being.

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest

00:44 Andrew Sewell's Background and Career Transition

02:46 The Concept of Overthinking

05:32 The Role of Thinking in Modern Life

08:18 Exploring Self-Referential Thinking

12:11 The Nature of Thought and Self

22:55 Direct Inquiry and Awareness

28:32 The Illusion of Self and Thought

30:04 Experiencing Flow and Losing the Self

32:38 The Rise of Overthinking in Modern Society

33:08 The Deification of the Self

35:41 The Impact of Advertising and Social Media

36:46 Indigenous Perspectives on Self and Nature

38:03 The Concept of Individuation vs. Separation

40:31 The Evolutionary Advantage of the Separate Self

46:30 Practical Steps to Reduce Overthinking

48:33 Final Thoughts and Reflections

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Andrew on Linkedin and his website  here
• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
• TASTE THE MANGO  YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This Episode: 

00:00 Welcome and Introduction 

02:34 The Power of 'Before Psychology'

04:26 Understanding Annoyance and Judgment

07:27 Real-Life Examples of Judgment

17:42 The Concept of 'I' and Self-Inquiry

22:29 Exploring the Concept of 'I'

23:56 Understanding Annoyance and Self-Identification

26:03 The Intelligent Design of Annoyance

28:34 Seeing Through Misidentification

33:05 Leaning into Discomfort for Growth

36:32 Curiousity and Compassion in Relationships

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Kate and her website
• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more
• TASTE THE MANGO Piers and  Katrijn's YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep 11:  ''Flow State - Where Are We Going Wrong?

Listen to the full episode here 

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? 

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

• Understanding Flow
• Barriers to Flow
• The Role of Self in Flow
• Are There Phases to Flow?
• Practical Insights on Achieving Flow
• Summary: The Myths About Flow

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Tim on LinkedIn here and his website True Results
• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more 
• TASTE THE MANGO Piers and  Katrijn's YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more 
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Check out our other podcast episodes, a curated list here
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

"Is Quality of Mind Different to Spirituality’’

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
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• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Katrijn on LinkedIn here and her website and great books here
• TASTE THE MANGO Piers and  Katrijn's YouTube and Sub stack all about Direct Inquiry, Explore for yourself
• For our previous episodes with Katrijn; Leadership or Free Will & Change  
• A summary of the Quality of Mind resources, to find out more 
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep 10:  ''Before Psychology: What Do You Actually Explore?''

Quality of Mind unlocks the Secret Source to more performance, peace and potential. But it does it in a very transformative, sustainable way, by explore 'Before Psychology'  - What is that, and does it help? 

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

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• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
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• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

This episode with Dre Baldwin, a former professional basketball player turned expert in personal and professional development. Dre is a highly prolific expert content producer on the subject of 'working on your game'. This conversation goes 'upstream' to what Dre usually shares as the discussion explores what is behind the creation of principles, structures and discipline needed to achieve in life. 

The importance of realising one's true identity as awareness itself, rather than the separate self, to attain psychological freedom and flow. 

This episode covers:

• The secret sauce to discipline, structure and results
• Our innocent attempts to 'reverse engineer' success.
• The power of realisation
• The big mistake of the modern world
• The illusion of control and agency .
• What you chase runs away.
• Chasing feelings and fulfilment - Seeking versus abundance.

To find out more about Dre Baldwin 

• Work On Your Game University: Linkedin, Youtube, Website, Insta,
• Link to a FREE training to increase business without working harder: http://www.WorkOnYourGame.net, 
• And Dre's text number to get his FREE #MondayMotivation text 1.305.384.6894

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Ep11:  "The Biggest Superpower for Human Potential''

An excerpt from a conversation with personal growth expert Dre Baldwin

• Link to the full episode  

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• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a a selection of playlists on different aspects of Quality of Mind and Before Psychology
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts
• Join our free Substack - The Secret Source - The Essential Hack 

Ep10:  "What is awakening?''

An excerpt from a conversation with Helen Amery on the episode ''Many Journeys Pointing to One Realisation - Why Are There Are So Many Different Approaches to Transformation & Human''

• Link to the full episode  

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a a selection of playlists on different aspects of Quality of Mind and Before Psychology
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts
• Join our free Substack - The Secret Source - The Essential Hack 

Many Journeys Pointing to One Realisation - Why Are There Are So Many Different Approaches to Transformation & Human Potential?

This episode is a conversation with show regular Helen Amery, a fellow coach of the understanding behind Quality of Mind. We describe  four doorways for transformation – psychological, emotional, physical, and spiritual (direct and indirect)  The discussion further explores the relationship between 'awakening' and 'enlightenment', viewing the former as grasping one's truest essence, and the latter denoting the continuous detangling of the human psychological condition after awakening. Whereas there are many approaches to transformation and human development there are also some we wouldn't recommend as much as others...

The discussion covers:

• The Limitations of Traditional Psychology and the Search for Something More
• The Awakening: Discovering the Non-Dual Landscape
• Why Are There Such a Diverse Range of Approaches in Personal and Professional Development
• The Common Goal of All Approaches: Uncovering the True Self
• Disentangling the Human Experience
• The Role of Awakening in the Enlightenment Process
• Exploring Different Doorways to Enlightenment
• The Intersection of Emotion and Physicality - The Body as a Signal for Attention
• The Importance of Embracing the Full Gamut of Human Experience
• The Cyclical Nature of the Journey of Awakening and Enlightenment
• What We Wouldn't Recommend.....

Curious - want to know more?

• Helen's The Enlightenment Event,  for all the info and to choose how you want to join. Doors open again 1st March 2024 for 6 days only

• To find out about Helen’s work her Wild Fig Community, private sessions and free resources see wildfigsolutions.co.uk. And for everything relating to The Complete Book of Awakening on Thoughtful Raven
• Listen to Helen and Piers on her journey back in 2019 as she starts to have realisations about the principles behind Quality of Mind in this special behind the scenes 3 part mini series
• Find out more about Quality of Mind   
• If you want to know more about 'becoming awake' check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

In this episode, Piers chats with corporate coach Dominic Scaffidi. Dominic and Piers did three episodes together back in 2020 exploring 'What is behind the magic of transformational coaching' and now they get back together to see what has been evolving in their own groundings and work.

This episode explores what is truly transformative about coaching from this understanding of Before Psychology and Quality of Mind. It is a deep and sometimes technical conversation about the nature of consciousness, self-limitation, and the essence of being.

They explore the idea of achieving versus allowing, noting that individuals can only experience the expansive nature of their being by dropping their resistance. They discuss how people often look for solutions outside themselves, forgetting that their real identity is infinite. The conversation also includes examples from business to illustrate their points effectively.

This Episode Covers:

• The only challenge we ever have in business is our own mind
• The appearance of solidity and limitation. There is nothing solid really to be dealing with
• A simple business example of how we innocently look in the wrong place
• The confusion between how it appears success is created and what is actually going on 
• The utilitarian usefulness of definitions
• The desire for more to overcome the illusion of scarcity
• The nuance between allowing and revealing
• The limitlessness to what is available
• Why people really come to coaching, what we are all seeking

Curious - want to know more?

• Have a listen to previous interviews with Dominic where we discuss 'The highest leverage point - A discussion to explore what really makes the difference' or How does this understanding transform the transformative effect of coaching.
• Dominic runs his own executive and team coaching business HR Possibilities, and you can find him on LinkedIn here 
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

In this episode of the Quality of Mind Transforming Business podcast, Sarah and Michelle from Pure Potential join the show to discuss their wonderful work in schools and education. They share their backgrounds and explain how they got involved in this field. Tune in to hear their insights on the impact of their work and the potential for transformation in the education sector.

In this episode we discuss:

• The evolution of a personal understanding that underpins professional development
• How to curate the learning experience as a exploration 
• Making the soil fertile - not providing prescriptive solutions
• Understanding the mechanics of the human experience leading to practical solutions 
• Is there really a learner to learn, the awesome power - when we get out of the way
• The intelligence of the system - The learning extravaganza
• The joy of being human and curiousity
• Hope and possibility in education reform

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Pure Potential and their work here
• And more about  Michelle and Sarah on LinkedIn
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep9:  "The Huge Case of Mistaken Identity’’

An excerpt from a conversation with Clare Dimond on the episode ''If We Don’t Have Free Will, What is the Point?''

• Link to the full episode  

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

In this episode, Piers chats with Clare Dimond, a wonderful return guest to the show, and this time the topic is about free will and what our reality in any moment is 'showing us', and the availability of the  'learning extravaganza' that is available as the human experience. Clare is a skilled teacher of the understanding behind Quality of Mind, and a prolific and gifted author. 

In this episode we discuss:

• Not having free will
• Our innocent normalised misunderstand on the concept of the "I".
• The mental construct as illusion
• How we can explore via Direct inquiry
• What we mean by witness and the innocent mistake in what witnessing means .
• Distinguishing between 'isness' and conditioning.
• The role of our 'Individuated' perception
• Maximising the learning extravaganza that is available as the human experience 
• An example in the workplace with your boss's reactions and overreactions.
• Once we fully embrace the self-identified mind and recognises essential nature, the system returns to a state of flow and dynamism

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Clare and her work here
• Other episodes with Clare; What has this got to with how we communicate, lead and turn up at work?  and Wants, Desires, Resistance, and Tuning into the Optimum system.
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind YouTube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'

Ep8: ' "5 Things to Consider About Our Minds & Exploring Potential’’

An excerpt from an interview on the Limitless Lives podcast: A conversation with Nilesh Patel

• Link to the full episode  

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

This episode is taken from the podcast series What is a Good Life? where Mark McCartney is on a mission to explore the answer to that wonderful question. He ha already interviewed 150+ people, and now asks some excellent questions about the Before Psychology approach and Quality of Mind.  If you’re frustrated with your personal development endeavours or you find yourself clinging too tightly to your self-identity, at the cost of more fully connecting with others and life itself, this episode offers plenty of food for thought. 

Our discussion covers:

• Piers takes us on his journey, from exploring counselling, NLP, and other modalities to direct path non-duality. 
• We discuss the challenges often faced in personal development rooted in self-identification, breaking free from our addiction to focussing on our psychology, transcending the confines of the mind while fully embracing our emotions
• How ultimately it about revealing a sense ease that can be experienced in life when we let go of our attachment to the separate self.
• We discuss and explore the 'oneness' that you've perhaps long suspected, but resisted embracing, that can have a profound effect on how you perceive life.

Curious - want to know more?

• Find out more about What is a Good Life project and subscribe to Mark's podcast here
• You can find out more about Mark on LinkedIn here 
• Find out more about Quality of Mind
• If you want to experience more check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode we talk to Rick Cotgreave. Rick has 12 years experience in corporate team and executive development previous to that he worked in the arena of elite sport. Rick has come to see what really makes the difference in human development and what is missing in many corporate programmes currently.

Our discussion covers:

• Trapped in the pursuit of success - the apparent contradiction between betterment and contentment 
• What is before psychology?
• Resilience and separateness
• The role of flow at work, and how we are missing joy and play in the workplace
• Pressing pause and intellectual humility. - Getting curious about self-inquiry
• Why is this understanding not more mainstream in business?

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Rick on LinkedIn here and her website  here
• Find out more about Quality of Mind
• For a similar episode check out 'Why You Can’t Do Leadership Development! The Biggest Myths We Need to Unlearn'
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode we talk to regular contributor and friend of the show Katrijn Van Oudheusden on the day her new book is launched - Beyond Illusion: Exploring the Six Illusions that Cause Our Mistaken Belief in a Separate Self.' This is Katrijn's second book, and it lays down the foundation to exploring the illusion we are all innocently hoodwinked by - that we are a separate self. This book pieces together with insights from neuroscience and philosophy evidence that both directly and indirectly points us to recognise the true nature of what we are, and consciousness as the fabric of reality itself.

Our discussion covers:

- How come the second book is really the first book - foundations .v. implications

- How the book is aimed at those people with an inkling there must be a different way seeing the world and operating

- The relevance in today's world of need to point to something to 'keep the conceptual mind happy' before people will fall awake to something more 'spiritual'

- A brief explanation of the 6 illusions - and how they progress from most accessible to recognise to more hidden and harder to realise

- The relevance of chapter 7 - introducing the importance step of actual inquiring into this directly and for yourself

- What could happen if you read this book - the start of your journey

Curious - want to know more?

• Buy the book here
• You can find out more about Katrijn on LinkedIn here and her website  here
• Find out more about Quality of Mind
• If you want to experience more check out Piers and Katrijn's  new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'  -

Ep8: ''How did I get here? Brief Overview of the path to Before Psychology"

Piers Thurston - Founder of Quality of Mind, describes his own path of coming to see that Before Psychology is the most important leverage point for us to have more performance, peace and potential 

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

Mark Lund - President of McCann World Group UK and Europe, talks about the benefits and Nature of Quality of Mind

This episode is taken from an interview on the Future Fuzz podcast. Justin Campbell is a digital marketing expert who educates and inspires people on the best way to stay relevant and futureproof on their marketing and e-commerce campaigns . The episode serves as useful relevant introduction to Quality of Mind, as Justin had listened to one episode from the QoM podcast, and thought it was fascinating and wanted to know more...

The discussion covers:

- Do we loose connection compared to when we were babies?

- How the appearance that we are a separate limited self arises and causes our suffering

- How we are all the same, but that doesn't mean we have to condone all behaviours 

- How to use feelings to our advantage  -what is going on?

- What does this understanding mean for contemporary societal issues, like mental health or dementia 

- An example of how low Quality of Mind might turn up in a meeting at work

- What is the approach for Quality of Mind in businesses? Going from upstream 'before psychology' self inquiry, to day to day business relevance

- The most common comment people make - 'I wish I had seen this before' - how this understanding gets better the more and more you see it! 

Curious - want to know more?

• The Future Fuzz podcast that Justin has created.
• Justin Campbell Linkedin Profile
• Find out more about Quality of Mind   
• If you want to know more about 'becoming awake' check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

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This episode is a conversation with Craig Wilmann, a business leader and content creator, who experienced a transformative shift in his understanding of the mind. He shares his journey and the benefits he now enjoys in all aspects of work and life. 

The discussion covers:

- The difference this understanding can make for Leadership

- How Craig first experience non duality during a burnout episode 

- What is it that we are pointing to?  How does it feel?  What is behind the personal mind?

- The simple yet profound nature of just being in life and sensing it, without the narrative of being a self.

- The inspiration, creativity and confidence to create and publish a short story every week for a year! 

-  The relevance for the workplace; contrived versus emergent leadership

- How this understanding helps any area of life and work, including running marathons dress as an elephant😁

Curious - want to know more?

• The highly recommended Meaningless Problems podcast that Craig has created. Subscribe now wherever you get your podcasts to help him hit his charitable goal. Note: Craig's writing pseudonym is Doe Wilmann 
• The Leaders Council  that Craig is Executive Director of. His Linkedin Profile
• Find out more about Quality of Mind   
• If you want to know more about 'becoming awake' check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

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This episode is a conversation with Helen Amery, a fellow coach of the understanding behind Quality of Mind, who poses an excellent exploration, the difference between being 'awake' and having an 'enlightened life'.  Do we need to be 'awake' to have an enlightened life?  What do those words even mean? Explore with us on this episode...

The discussion covers:

• What do we mean by those words?  A simple description
• If we have a recognition of being 'awake' does that lead to an enlightened life?
• What makes it hard to have an enlightened life without a recognition of 'our true nature'
• Two more words - The difference between 'inquiry' and 'reflection'
• How different coaching approaches start from different places; what truly makes the difference
• Is this relevant for the workplace? What does it offer?
• How psychological safety is an innocent reverse engineering due to a misunderstanding
• Some of the indicators that you might be on the path to either....

Curious - want to know more?

• During the show we mentioned Helen’s post that prompted this recording. Here’s that original post
• To find out about Helen’s work go to her main website where you can find out about her Wild Fig Community, private sessions and free resources Awakening and Enlightenment | Coach and Guide (wildfigsolutions.co.uk)
• And for everything relating to The Complete Book of Awakening, go to its publishing website, Thoughtful Raven. There you’ll find a link through to the courses and community for the book. Thoughtful Raven – The home of practical spirituality books.
• Listen to Helen on her journey back in 2019 as she starts to have realisations about the principles behind Quality of Mind in this special behind the scenes 3 part mini series
• Find out more about Quality of Mind   
• If you want to know more about 'becoming awake' check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a conversation with Quality of Mind colleague Kate Adey. Kate has over 20 years experience in the corporate world - as a consultant and coach. 

Have you ever noticed that spark in life has dulled, or the feeling of joy for no reason has evaporated?  Are you surviving rather than thriving? And if thriving, is it achieved by striving and grind? Many of us are innocently and invisibly 'comfortably numb'.

Sound like you?..Listen on...

The episodes covers:

• How as we grow up gradually and subtly the freedom, ease, and joy can disappear from life, but we see it 'just how life is'
• The indicators that you might be more 'comfortably numb' than you realised
• How this is exaggerated in most organisations and workplaces
• Is there an alternative?  What can we do about that?
• How do we see the extraordinary in the ordinary
• Maybe we have just been looking in the wrong place....

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Kate and her website 
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is taken from the  WTF What The Future?! Podcast series. Where Piers was asked to have a real time coaching conversation with three business leaders Ian Parry, Helen Gillett and Andy Caulton, who were keen to learn more about Quality of Mind

In this episode we discuss:

• The nature and benefits of the Quality of Mind approach
• A mini real time direct self inquiry experiment on 'who we are' 
• We've never experienced anything outside of the mind - so what?
• What is the nature of reality?  What has that got to with more leadership potential
• It sounds too good to be true, so ''how do I.....''
• What is the flow state made of? The aperture 
• How do you describe Quality of Mind, what it is and what is isn't. 
• How do you sell and promote something that appears so different; are people sceptical? 

Curious - want to know more?

• The WTF podcast What The Future?!   and the Future Leaders website 
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series' 

Ep7: 'Do We Really Have Free Will? 

Link to the full episode 

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

Piers chats with the authors of a new wonderfully helpful book on the subject of exploring Non Duality (which forms the foundation of Quality of Mind). Helen Amery the co-author, has been a regular on the show  and she is joined by Sara Priestley to discuss how they developed 'The Complete Book of Awakening'.

In this episode we discuss:

• How the book – The Complete Book of Awakening - came about
• Why the book is called “Complete”
• The definition of awakening
• Who the book is for  -Why this isn’t a book to ‘read for gist’
• Why the book removes all spiritual dogma and paradox
• Why direct inquiry and logic are a powerful combination
• The three levels of experience and putting them in their right order
• Why our conceptual labels don’t reflect reality
  
• Why resistance arises during an awakening inquiry and why that’s OK
• Why this inquiry is your own – you have to see it for yourself – and why the outcome isn’t a life floating in bliss as many imagine it to be
• Why goals of a nicer life must be put secondary to seeing your essential nature
• How do you know if you’ve recognsied your essential nature – awakened?
• Why awakening results in the behaviour changes that we usually ‘try’ to make happen in business

Curious - want to know more?

• Go to the Thoughtful Raven website for free resources that go with the book, purchasing links for the book and journal, and links to courses and a community, as well as to get in touch with Helen and Sara.

  Thoughtful Raven – The home of practical spirituality books

  You can buy the book on Amazon and also The Complete Book of Awakening – Exploration Journal
• Check out our other Quality of Mind podcast episodes, a curated list here
• Helens initial appearance on the Quality of Mind podcast, and her experience of being coached in this understanding, and more recently talking about 'Does the Mind really work Inside Out'
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Piers talks to fellow Coach, Stephen Lock, who through his own leadership journey realised organisations are still rooted in the industrial revolution when it comes to how they manage and control themselves. They discuss the way forward....😊

In this episode we discuss:

• The roots of our current prevailing corporate culture and leadership style 
•  How ideas like non-hierarchical organizations, or different ways of having conversations have emerged, but missing the true understanding and relevance of human consciousness
• How our conditioning and culture has made some areas seem a no go - and then we wake up
• What do we fear losing by exploring something different? 
• An organisational example of where it does work, to start from a different foundation
• Do we need to reverse engineer or can we go straight there? 

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Stephen and his work here  or website here
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

In this episode Piers chats with Clare Dimond a wonderful return guest to the show, and this time the topic is about how the personal mind creates a sense of seeking and wanting, and how we can tune into a 'purer' sense of evolving and creating. Clare is a skilled teacher of the understanding behind Quality of Mind, and a prolific and gifted author. 

In this episode we discuss:

• What is behind all wants and desires
• The red herring of the rewards in life, our peak moments - fuelling the confusion. 
• The purpose of resistance - not trying to avoid it and how it is our inner conditioning made external - 
• Feel and sensing not thinking about our feelings and emotions
• Shifting out of identification and inevitable resistance, and how that leads to curiousity 
• Deeper knowing and sensing, obviousness 
• Two types of sensitivity: our fluid raw primal 'reality immersion' and our conceptual separated conditioned based sensitivity
• The intelligence in how to run the body mind- the sensing and then our innocent identification to that
• The natural revealing a way of supporting a body mind to its optimum 

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Clare and her work here
• Another episode with Clare What has this got to with how we communicate, lead and turn up at work? 
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

In this episode Piers chats with insightful business leader and global commentator - Chris Nurko. Chris has decades of global business leadership experience. He is a true thought leader in innovation, branding and creative collaboration. This is a more 'downstream' and less 'technical' conversation than some of our episodes but of course still points to what is behind everything - the mind.  Chris is someone with an intuitively high Quality of Mind in the game of life, so enjoy the listening to how success gets created in the business world when you recognise the most important variable

This episodes discusses:

• Starting with aperture - how organisational culture as an operating system can contract or expand possibility 
• Breakthrough brands and how they alter the consciousness of society  
• Opening your mind to harnessing the powers of others for mutual goals, exponentially accelerates the potential impact 
• Modern business don't give the space for realization to happen, which is where mindsets dissolve new perspectives come along
• How titles, resumes, achievements are all ego defences and crutches - the myth of brand 'me'
• The growing importance of seeing how the role of mind impacts everything 

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Chris on LinkedIn here 
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind 
• Some 2 minute 'tasters' of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, curated into sections
• Piers regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and posts
• To make a comment or ask a question just voice here 

In this episode Piers chats with Janick Loewe, Janick is a coach who works with performers and business creators to unlock their full potential. He is a ex Ballroom dancer and won the Professional World Championships in 2014. We explore the topic of human potential and how it works, whether that be on the dance floor or the board room.

This episodes discusses:

• Are we hunting for potential in the wrong place
• Dancing with what we are our psychology, and what is before psychology
• Be the samba!
• How potential is very often suffocated by our psychology, our thoughts.
• Where to dig, tracing it back to 'i'
• The downside of reverse engineering and thinking our way back into flow; 
• Reaching potential is subtractive not additive

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Janick and his work here and on Linkedin here
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind 
• Some 2 minute 'tasters' of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, curated into sections
• Piers regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and posts
• To make a comment or ask a question just voice here 

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Ep6: 'The Hydrofoil on the Boat

A excerpt from the episode ''

• Link to the full episode  

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

Mark Lund - President of McCann World Group UK and Europe, talks about the benefits and Nature of Quality of Mind

In this episode Piers chats with Quality of Mind client - Mark Lund. Mark was President McCann World Group for UK and Europe - with a remit for about 15 businesses and 5,000 people.

This episodes discuses:

• Transforming 10 business to behave as one; increases in profit, productivity, and scale
• Working in flow, & better decisions. More psychological freedom
• The power of recognising the capacity for universal intelligence
• QoM is not a normal training; the benefits don't decay like most courses, but continue to grow. The potential is massive
• People are yet to recognise how powerful a shift in how you see the world could be - wish I'd done it 10 years earlier!
• In todays competitive world QoM is the key to enable the people you work with and the whole organisation to be so much more

Curious - want to know more?

• We have a 15min YouTube video version of this conversation here
• You can find out more about Mark here
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Some 2 minute 'tasters' of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, curated into sections, including our new 'Not Even 5 Mins' section
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts
• To make a comment or ask a question just voice here 

Part of the new 'Not Even 5 Mins' Series' 

Ep5: 'Unlocking Better Workshops'

A excerpt from the full episode 'The Missing Piece in Creating Better Workshop & Meetings Outcomes''

• Link to the full episode  

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind 
• Some 2 minute 'tasters' of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, curated into sections

In this episode Piers chats with Frans Rensen, a return guest to the show, and this time the topic is about how Quality of Mind can dramatically shift the quality of the output and outcomes from workshops and meetings. Frans is an experienced corporate coach, with a background in Agile methodology and now also specialising in Quality of Mind.

In this episode we discuss:

• How for some people this can be their first experience of the power of Quality of Mind
• What happens for people when they free themselves from their thinking limitations in a workshop
• How come we are invisibly shackled by our mind, especially in the workplace, but it is normalised
• There is a practical relevance and tangible power to the 'oneness' that can be felt
• Uncovering the nuggets of gold that solve big ''problems''
• How starting with Quality of Mind improves or removes the need for traditional facilitation structures and techniques  

Curious - want to know more?

• Frans's profile on Linkedin
• The previous episode where Frans describes how Quality of Mind is the missing piece  Agile change
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind 
• Some 2 minute 'tasters' of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, curated into sections
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts.

In this episode Piers chats with fellow coach John Patrick Morgan. John is a philosopher and champion for being. He leads a team of Creating Champions who teach, coach, and guide thousands of entrepreneurs and artists in being more free, loving, and powerful. By learning and embodying the Creating perspective, their clients achieve a union of outcomes in spiritual growth, material success, and social impact. He walks his talk, lives what he teaches, and has a genuine and powerful commitment to creating.

This episodes discusses:

• Exploring the 'Sailing .v. Rowing' metaphor
• The nature of creation - The big bang goes on banging
• Clarity, Certainty and Commitment  - What's the difference? 
• 'Allowing to be created' .v. 'Making it happen'
• Neutral intention in creating goals - The dance of 'Both ... And...'
• Plans .v. serendipity & synchronicity
• Creating shared dreams in business
• How the self gets in the way of creating
• Commitment is what happens when you don't say no to love

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about JP and his work; ''Creating'' here and his personal website here he is on YouTube and Insta and there is a neat quiz, for you to try The Ultimate Creator Calculator™️! 
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind 
• Some 2 minute 'tasters' of Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other podcast episodes, curated into sections
• Piers regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and posts
• To make a comment or ask a question just voice here 

This episode is a conversation with our now regular show guest coach and author Katrijn Van Oudheudsen. Katrijn points to the direct path non-dual understanding in her work around Servant and Selfless Leadership. 

The discussion covers:

- What is behind change  - the idea agency and judgement

- Do we have freewill?

- How materialism became relevant, but isn't accurate

- The need to start at the beginning, what is foundational?

- How it is hard to let go off the idea of agency and being the doer

- There is something even better than trying to 'do' life

- Don't try and understand it in the conventional way, just look for a trace of resonance and intrigue 

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Katrijn on LinkedIn here and her website and great book here
• For our previous episode on Leadership listen here 
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

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Free will

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Ep4: 'Where can we seek stability?'

A excerpt from the episode ''Our Innocent Mistake with Psychological Safety - Seeking Stability in an Unstable World - A conversation with Joel Drazner'

• Link to the full episode  

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

Explore with us!

This a different type of episode to usual, as we conduct a real time 'direct experience self inquiry'. You can listen and explore along with us, as Katrijn and I chat with Emily, who bravely volunteered to be our live demonstration subject.

A direct experience self inquiry is a process whereby someone explores the nature of what something is - using ‘direct experience’ i.e. not using beliefs or learnt concepts, but instead exploring in a fresh, non-intellectual, almost 'sensing' way.

The benefit from this is foundational, as it underpins all our work in Quality of Mind and the wonderful impact that can have on someone's life and work.

Please - we really want your feedback on this episode! So please share your comments and questions, if you want to voice it rather than write please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM -

We'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Katrijn on LinkedIn here and her website and great book here
• For another episode on the 'self' - listen to ''Why you can't do Leadership Development'' and Quality of Mind here 
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is the second conversation with Katz Kiely a digital transformation consultant who as well as decades of experience in transforming organisations, hosts the wonderful Humans Leading Humans Podcast.  In our first conversation we discuss what is behind transformation and leadership, and how counter many corporate cultures are to facilitating change. In this second conversation we get more into the aspects of the Mind that need to realised in order facilitate exponential human potential and change

The episodes covers:

• ''Being 100% yourself'' - what does that mean?
• Flow state  - what is behind it?
• Seeing what people are (and are not) will change how organisations operates
• The folly of stability seeking in psychology
• Realisations:  Meta and practical 
• What is common in common sense  
• The false deification of the self and being a super human

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Part One: The first conversation 
• he Humans Leading Humans podcast
• You can find out more about Katz and Beep and the CREATE framework
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'  -

Ep3: ' A Leaders Role - Seeing You First' 

A excerpt from the episode ''What has this got to with how we communicate, lead and turn up at work?'' A conversation with Clare Dimond

• Link to the full episode  

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

This episode is a conversation with Nigel Wilson -a board director, strategist and leader in technology change. As well as his expertise and experience in technology consultancy, Nigel has a keen eye for the role of the mind in enabling successful change. 

The discussion covers:

 - How to put the agile back into agile change 

- The software, firmware and hardware

- The misnomer of psychological safety - The natural innate tendency for curiousity, humility, empathy with in a high QoM

- How organisations try to reverse engineer change using the psychological fixes and proscriptions  

- The normalised low QoM associated with organisational change

- The irony of the mind not be valued when it is most important factor, the missing resource source

- The common things that appear to trigger low QoM in a tech change project

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Nigel on LinkedIn 
• For another episode on organisational change, agile and Quality of Mind listen here
• For a more in depth looking into the non-dual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'  -

Ep2: Piers talks about the self and 'Am I just a thought?' (3min)

• If you are curious and want to mind find more about what this snippet is refering to then listen to this episode  Self & I: the case of Mistaken Identity 

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts
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Ep1: Kate Adey is asked About the Game Changing Nature of Quality of Mind  (3min)

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Kate Adey regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of posts

This episode is a conversation with fellow coach and author, Naphtali Visser. Naphtali is author of 'Humans Workings - Why culture and Mindset beat Strategy' 

The discussion covers:

- What is this understanding of the 'human operating system'  

- How the understanding behind Quality of Mind can make a difference to society and the systems we live in

- We are all psychologically innocent - We are accountable but also can forgive ourselves and others

- We make stories up about the world, and forget we made them up, and it becomes ''that's reality''

- How quickly a judging and fearful mind can become one that is from love and understanding

- The difference of acting from insights and an open aperture as to from the 'self' 

- How making a difference to society is a natural symptom and implication of a shift how you see the nature of what we are.

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Naphtali on LinkedIn and his website and great book here
• For another episode on societal change and Quality of Mind listen here 
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a conversation with fellow coach and author Katrijn Van Oudheudsen. Katrijn points to the direct path non-dual understanding in her work around Servant and Selfless Leadership. We point to why conventional approaches to leadership development, are never going to really unlock the true leverage point to leadership development, until the more foundational inquiry and realisation about 'what we are essentially' and the very nature of reality has been realised/

The discussion covers:

- Why we can't do leadership development 

- The implications of trying to reverse engineer personal development 

- What is servant leadership development, from the 'self less' perspective

- What do we become in life if we realise there is no doer

- The difference between conceptual inquiry and sensing inquiry

- Do we really have a body?

- Some simple freewill thought experiments

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Katrijn on LinkedIn here and her website and great book here
• For another episode on Leadership and Quality of Mind listen here 
• Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
• Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a conversation with trauma therapist and coach Lou Lebentz. Lou & Piers have similar backgrounds in how they worked with clients, and now Lou specialises with clients suffering trauma. After they had a couple of interesting exchanges on LinkedIn about psychological safety, they decided to do a podcast exploring the difference and similarities.... 

The discussion covers:

• What we mean by trauma?
• The relevance of seeing psychological safety via the nervous system. The polyvagal theory
• Can you point directly, or do people need to go through a 'journey' - can it be that simple?
• The issue of 'spiritual bypassing'
• The self and it's narratives -  what are they, and how do they dissolve? The 'real and never true' nature of reality. 
• The importance of 'relational repair' 
• Relationships - who is doing the relating?
• The power of holding space

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Lou on LinkedIn here and her website here 
• For shorter resources to share on  Quality of Mind and Psychological Safety a) short 10min podcast   b) a 3min video
• For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind and it's relevance for psychological safety listen here  
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Check out all our other podcast episodes, via a curated list here
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a conversation with fellow coach and teacher Joel Drazner. 

The discussion covers:

• The innocent mistake we make when seeking stability in an unstable world
• How that turns up in our search for Psychological Safety 
• What is it that we can rely on? What is the source of happiness and contentment
• How come it is so easy to misunderstand that, our seeking.
• What am I really?
• Is this just a tautology? 
• A little experiment - a practical way to start to see what is really going.....

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Joel on LinkedIn here and subscribe to his excellent weekly newsletter here 
• For shorter resources to share on  Quality of Mind and Psychological Safety a) short 10min podcast   b) a 3min video
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a conversation with leadership coach, trainer and author Obi Abuchi. 

The discussion covers:

• What is core to leadership
• How often we get sucked into the rat race and the nature of organisations and a leaders role, draws us away from recognise what is fundamental about leadership.
• The ego games and what is behind them
• How we look in the wrong place to find the solutions
• The power of surrendering and letting go - versus - controlling and managing 
• The pressure paradox
• What triggers us to to try a different way, and how we don't need for it to get bad before it gets better

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Obi on his personal website  and his corporate work at CORE Leader International
• Obi's new book 'Leading from Your Core' is available here
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode: 'Looking at... What is behind Psychological Safety?' is a short 10min podcast, there is a deeper more comprehensive exploration with this episode

This episode explores:

• What is Psychological Safety ?
• What is core attributes are behind Psychological Safety ?
• How Psychological Safety is a natural symptom of Quality of Mind
• Why we don't need to reverse engineer Psychological Safety?

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

 Still Curious - want to know more?

• A 3 minute video on Psychological Safety, share with someone busy
• A Youtube playlist of short 2min videos Exploring Quality of Mind tips
• What is this new understanding of the mind that has huge implications for Psychological Safety, link to a 45min episode, or link to 100 min episode with Rupert Spira
• You can find out more on our website about Quality of Mind,
• Don't forget to check out the other short LOOKING AT episodes on DECISION MAKING  PRODUCTIVITY & LEADERSHIP & RESILIENCE
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and post

• How we generally lack respect and narrow the role, relevance and value of Listening
• The difference between 'listening for communication' and 'listening for connection'
• How listening is your barometer of a far greater invisible power
• How we are conditioned to listen using the mind
• How intuitive deep listening doesn't require any effort

 Still Curious - want to know more?

•  You can find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Don't forget to check out the other 'LOOKING AT' episodes on DECISION MAKING  PRODUCTIVITY & LEADERSHIP & RESILIENCE 
• Check out this short podcast: What are the principles behind Quality of Mind?
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and post

This episode is a conversation with Quality of Mind colleague Kate Adey. Kate has over 20 years experience in the corporate world - as a consultant and coach.

The episodes covers:

• How we as 'conventional' coaches used to approach relationships and communication with leaders in the workplace, and what is different now.
• Are other people really 'a problem'?
• How effortless it is to relate and have effective communication from a more expanded aperture and when in flow
• Our shared being, what is it?  And is it relevant for the workplace?
• How a relationship or communication feels is just an indicator to our aperture in the moment.
• How we get to addicted to psychological efforting - fixing, and trying to work it out.
• How our misunderstanding of who we are affects how we relate to others.

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Kate and her website 
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a conversation with Katz Kiely a digital transformation consultant who as well as decades of experience in transforming organisations, hosts the wonderful Humans Leading Humans Podcast.  We discuss what is behind transformation and leadership, and how counter many corporate cultures are to facilitating change and getting the very best from humans. 

The episodes covers:

• What Katz has learnt about transformation from working across many industries and cultures.
• How come many organisations do the exact opposite of what is necessary to engender human based leadership and transformation.
• The relevance of the the mind in human based leadership and change.
• The CREATE framework as conditions to improve organisational change are natural symptoms of high Quality of Mind
• The invisible rat race and hamster wheel.
• What does the future hold? Are we waking up?

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• The Humans Leading Humans podcast
• You can find out more about Katz and Beep and the CREATE framework
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a conversation with Jennifer Kauffman who has overcome her life's traumas including the Boston marathon bombing, Jennifer discovers her way from emotional and physical suffering and learns to thrive in all aspects of life and work. We discuss what is behind transformation and resilience, how it is available for anyone regardless of their circumstances.

The episodes covers:

• The secret source behind transformation
• How relying on psychological 'efforting', will power, and hard work are not the best way to a  successful, balanced, happy life
• The power and relevance of being tuned into flow state in your work
• How it is so easy and innocent to buy into your personal narrative when it appears to be created by events and circumstances 
• Why there is something before and beyond the personal mind that inspires, heals and creates in life
• Achieving results - following the breadcrumbs and the ''tight / loose sweet spot''
• How to create in the world without being restrained by 'outside' limitations and restrictions.

Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast and if want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - love to hear from you!!

Curious - want to know more?

• Watch Jennifer's new transformational film here, it describes the steps of her fascinating journey, and how transformation is available for anyone
• You can find out more about Jennifer and her work 
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a conversation with Helen Amery, a fellow coach of the understanding behind Quality of Mind, who poses an excellent inquiry question that any human being would benefit from exploring - Is the outside world created from the  mind?  Whether you are an experienced 'seeker', or someone who has never considered this question, explore with us on this episode...

The discussion covers:

• Is it even the right question? Do we actually experience an outer and inner world?
• What can we look to in terms of our direct experience that points to the nature of reality, experience and the mind?
• Are we hood winked by our conditioning and perceptions to what might be going on?
• So what? Does it matter where it all comes from, and realising how it works?
• What's next, what is the relevance, and how to explore further

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out about Helen and her work at Wild Fig executive coaching, and her LinkedIn profile,  and if you want to follow Helen and join her wonderful community read more here
• Listen to Helen on her journey as she starts to have realisations about the principles behind Quality of Mind in this special behind the scenes 3 part mini series
• Find out more about Quality of Mind    
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind 
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a conversation with Clare Dimond, a skilled teacher of the understanding behind Quality of Mind, and a prolific and gifted author.  We discuss what this knowing of the true self and how the mind works, means for how we turn up at work, and how we communicate.

The episodes covers:

• How the true freedom to be you, and express yourself gets restricted and shackled by the workplace
• How what we see in the world, our beliefs and thoughts are an OUTPUT of the system, not the input  
• The invisible limitations most people are sitting in because it looks so real in perception
• How we don't turn into a 'push over', or don't get what we want, if we realise the illusion of perception 
• The value of navigating the workplace with a psychological cleanliness and neutrality
• How our leadership and communication are feeding back to us all the time as to activity of our conditioned mind

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Clare and her work here
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

In this episode I reconnect with previous show guest Dr Amy Johnson, we discuss the highly relevant question of why we believe 'Before Psychology' is so necessary and powerful yet overlooked.   Amy is the author of 'The Little Book of Big Change', she is a regularly featured expert on The Steve Harvey Show, Oprah.com, as well as Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and Self magazine.

This is a relatively long episode, but it is all so very valuable - kick back and enjoy the exploration!  Please let us know what resonates

The episodes covers:

• What is the 'before psychology' understanding we refer to in the Quality of Mind approach
• Why do are people now seeking something more than the psychological approaches to their wellbeing and performance  
• The difference between seeing the mind and the self as an entity (object) and an activity (process)
• How conditioning has misled us - what is our preoccupation with fixing our minds via psychology
• The relevance of making concessions when pointing people to this understanding 
• How come it makes everything in life more wonderful and simpler 

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Amy and her work here
• Amy's new Book 'Just a Thought' (aka That's Just What Minds Do :) purchase and get a free chapter here 
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• The previous episode with Amy where we discuss how change works, and what gets in the way
• Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a real treat, and gives listeners an opportunity to absorb themselves in a conversation with Rupert Spira one of the most articulate, elegant, and humble, and deeply grounded pointers to the understanding known as non-duality, which lies at the heart of the Quality of Mind understanding.

Now you may wonder what has a spiritual understanding got to do with transforming business, listen in to find out! 

The episodes covers:

• What is the 'before psychology' understanding we refer to in the Quality of Mind approach
• What do we mean by 'mistaken identity' - what is our true nature?
• Will becoming more aware of my true nature make me less effective in the world? Will I lose my drive and edge?
• What is truly sourcing our inspiration, and creativity in the workplace - where does our smart clever stuff come from?
• The relevance of this understanding for leadership - what you can lean into to increase the performance and wellbeing for yourself and your organisation
• How science is starting to see the primacy of consciousness - there is no disagreement really
• A little thought experiment
• What's next....

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Rupert on his website, he has some excellent books, and wonderful podcast, and plethora of YouTube clips
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out the Quality of Mind podcast: Listen here for an episode about what benefits someone can get from the understanding 
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a little different to usual because we're not going to be focusing so upstream into the mechanics of the mind or what's before our psychology, instead focusing more downstream into the context of project management and change management and what gets in the way of organizations realising full benefits. Through a conversation with Project management specialist Jana Axaline we discuss the real world examples of how people get in the way of projects! 

The episodes covers:

• What is the difference between project management and project leadership
• What gets in the way of achieving full benefits realisation in a project
• The importance of clarity, and understanding separate realities 
• The downside of being too invested and attached to an outcome
• The difference between project management and change management
• Choosing the the right skills for the right role; technical SME .v. managing projects or change
• How to overcome change fatigue
• The false economy - organisations not investing in the foundations for successful change 

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Jana on LinkedIn and Project Genetics on their website here
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out the Quality of Mind podcast: Listen here for an episode about what benefits someone can get from the understanding 
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is taken from The Right Here, Right Now podcast with with Garry Turner. And the brief is = no brief. What emerged was a neat encapsulation of the many aspects of the understanding behind Quality of Mind

The episodes covers:

• What is the conceptual mind?
• What else is available for us beyond the conceptual?
• How does Quality of Mind actually turn up for people in the workplace
• Does it matter if we get caught up in our narratives?
• So what?  Now what?

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Garry and his work here on Linkedin and Youtube
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out the Quality of Mind podcast: Listen here for an episode about what benefits someone can get from the understanding 
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and posts

This episode is a conversation with Sam Jarman a PGA golf pro and coach who now also works with organisations to help them understand the nature of the mind so that it benefits their performance, wellbeing and resourcefulness 

We discuss:

• What is it that links better a golf swing to better business performance? Flow state and being free from the conceptual narrative mind
• What is the true nature of what we are before the 'self' and the relevance of this for everyday life and work
• How science has reached a dead end on understanding the nature of reality and human consciousness
• The importance of knowing 'what we are' before we work out how to run our lives 
• The misunderstanding we have about flow and happiness
• The direction to explore if you want to recognise the answer to lasting peace and wellbeing

 Curious - want to know more?

• Click here to find out more about Quality of Mind  please feel free to reach out and ask any questions
• To find out more about Sam; for his work with golfers  and more generally with sport  or with schools and teachers
• We referenced another episode 'Self and I' The case of Mistaken Identity listen to that episode here 
• Explore other episodes on the benefits of Quality of Mind, and past clients explaining the difference it has made to their work and lives. 
• If you recognise the spiritual element of what we are pointing to and want to explore more then check out Rupert Spira's excellent podcast The Essence of Non Duality 
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and post

In this episode we explore another one of the key foundations of the understanding that underpins the foundation of Quality of Mind. We recommend unless you are already familiar with the benefits and implications of the understanding, you have a listen to some of our other podcasts first, otherwise this might sound irrelevant to the business world!  

This is a conversation between Piers Thurston and fellow Quality of Mind programme delivery expert Rena Loizou

We talk about:

• What do we mean by 'Self & I'
• How realising this mistaken identity is foundational to experience the benefits of Quality of Mind
• How can we actually explore this in our own experience?  Unhooking the content of experience from the awareness of it 
• How what we are all seeking is dissolving of the self - how ordinary it is to experience, but we miss it and instead focus on the content of our experience
• The relationship between 'Self and I' and 'Real and Never True'

Curious - want to know more?

• Click here to find out more about Quality of Mind  
• We reference the 'Real & Never True' foundation of QoM -  listen to an episode on that here to find out more
• Explore other episodes on the benefits of Quality of Mind, and past clients explaining the difference it has made to their work and lives. 
• If you are curious to see whether science agrees yet, watch Jill Bolte Taylor's on her stroke and losing her 'self' TED talk
• If you recognise the spiritual element of what we are pointing to and want to explore more then check out Rupert Spira's excellent podcast The Essence of Non Duality 
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and posts
• More about Rena Loizou here

This episode is taken from the Business Futures Podcast from Datel

Piers is interviewed by  Emma Pownall the Marketing Director of Datel, a new comer to Quality of Mind, where she is curious to understand more about Quality of Mind, and how it might be a key aspect of future ready businesses.

This episode would serve as an excellent introduction to Quality of Mind for anyone.

The interview answers the following questions:

• How would you describe Quality of Mind?
• Why should businesses and leaders care about this and be interested?
• What are the basic principles of Quality of Mind?
• Can you say more about the aspect described as 'aperture' and how is it useful?
• How does this fit in with techniques like mindfulness?
• Examples of the wide impact of Quality of Mind in life and work
• How can we get into the right frame of mind?
• If you are intrigued, what are the next steps?

To make a comment or ask a question just voice here 

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Business Futures Podcast from Datel
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out the Quality of Mind podcast: Listen here for an episode about what benefits someone can get from the understanding 
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and posts
• To make a comment or ask a question just voice here 
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In this episode Piers chats with Garry Turner. Garry first came across Quality of Mind 2 years ago, and experienced a significant personal transformation, which has now extended in his inspiration for changing things in organisations and wider society.

Their discussion covers:

• What all society's 'isms' are a symptom of 
• The difference between activism from a high and low Quality of Mind
• What we don't see and experience when we are so invisibly pre-occupied with the self
• How we can go about 'revealing' consciousness
• How Garry navigated a personal illness with grace and ease
• The silver bullet that is much simpler than people think
• The connectedness of all things
• How change has evolved for Garry in the last two years (you can listen the podcast he did soon after his exposure to QoM here

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Garry and his work here on Linkedin and Youtube
• The Conscious Chemicals Community video
• His  podcast Activating Consciousness 
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out the Quality of Mind podcast: Listen here for an episode about what benefits someone can get from the understanding 
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and posts

In this episode Piers chats with Michael Neill. Michael is an internationally renowned transformative coach, author and thought leader. His best selling books have inspired millions. His talent as a writer and speaker is acting as a driving force in bringing this new understanding of the Mind to people across the world. In this episode they discuss what gets in the way of people realising this game changing understanding and all the benefits it can bring to an individual or a business.

The discussion covers:

• How we are much more pre-occupied than we might recognise
• That many people don't even realise that there is a way to get even further, even faster, with less effort
• How innocently we mis-diagnose what is really going on
• What great leadership is
• How to join the dots between this abstract and universal 'oxygen' conversation and the day to day 
• Why it can be helpful to see the power of resonating rather than trying to understand 

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Michael and his work here
• His wonderful podcast Caffeine for the Soul
• Find out more about Quality of Mind 
• Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out the Quality of Mind podcast: Listen here for an episode about what benefits someone can get from the understanding 
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and posts
• To make a comment or ask a question just voice here 

In this episode Piers chats with Dr Giles P Croft. They discuss a topic that is becoming  ever more prevalent - professional burnout. How it is misunderstood and what you can do about it. This episode is for you if suffer from a formal diagnosis of burnout, or ever just wondered whether you are doing too much, and struggle with burning the candle at both ends 

The discussion covers:

• What is burnout, and what are the symptoms, is it different to depression and stress?
• How for some of us we can normalise being on the edge of a low level of burnout without realising it  
• The illusion of being trapped by our circumstances and situation 
• How, once we understand what’s going on, we see we have infinite possibilities, including staying with the life we already have but with more ease deeper sense of peace, or have the clarity and insight to make changes

Curious - want to know more?

• You can find out more about Giles and his work here, and his LinkedIn profile
• Click here to find out more about Quality of Mind  
• Subscribe to our Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
• Check out this podcast: What are the principles behind Quality of Mind? Or here for an episode about what benefits someone can get from the understanding 
• Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on Linkedin and has a large collection of articles and posts